happy thursday happy new year and today is a special day for me uh a day that i celebrate every year it's another year of this show we've reached eight years of developer tea now and we won't spend a ton of time looking back necessarily on this show because if you want to do that you can go and listen to every episode you can listen to the whole back catalog on developertea.com but i do want to take a moment and say thank you uh thank you sincerely this is not just lip service the show wouldn't exist if people like you weren't listening and it is the thrill of my career to be able to give you a second way of thinking a new perspective a moment to ponder whether what you thought yesterday is what you should be thinking today a way of growing your career in a short segment of time and i've just been so grateful to be able to do that for eight years and i've gotten story after story that has continued to propel me forward to not consider stopping this podcast and i am just so appreciative so thank you so much for listening if you enjoy this show if you want us to keep going which we have no intentions of stopping but if you want this show to continue reaching more engineers like you then go and leave a review in itunes or in whatever podcasting platform you currently use share the show with your friends join the discord community developertea.com discord these are all the best ways that you can help with developer tea and of course you can get more involved yourself if you haven't subscribed of course subscribe as well in whatever podcasting app or platform that you use and we're not going to waste an entire episode on just talking about how we've been here for eight years i do want to discuss with you about the future of the podcasting community and i'll see you in the next episode the reality of being wrong today if you imagine what it feels like to be wrong about something what do you imagine what events lead up to it and what do you see yourself doing in response to being wrong if you're like me or if you're like most people you imagine that when you're wrong you find out quickly that you find out in no uncertain terms that there's clarity at some point you recognize it you accept it and you change and move on of course we know this isn't the case think about the last time you were actually wrong instead of imagining yourself being wrong in the future what did it look like the last time you were wrong the truth is you probably don't know we are all wrong in some way small or big we are all wrong in some way small or big every single day the guesses we're making the estimations we're making the kinds of code we're writing all of these things have small errors sometimes big errors and almost invariably we don't know we can't see that we are wrong why is this the case think back to the last thing that you were wrong about there's many reasons why you may have believed something was true and then found out later that that thing was not true or plenty of reasons why you wrote that code in that particular way and imagine that it wouldn't that it would work and in fact it doesn't work very rarely do you open your code editor probably never actually and write absolute nonsense instead you write something that looks like it should work instead of believing something that's absolutely wrong you probably believe something that is mostly correct or at least mostly plausible that is when we are wrong we are wrong in a way that is mostly indiscernible from being right let this sink in for a second when you are wrong when you have made an error when you've made a misjudgment when you've made a mistake when you've made a mistake when you've made a mistake when you've made a mistake when you've made a mistake when you've made a mistake something that isn't true when you do something with one intention towards a particular outcome but you get a completely different outcome even when things are mostly in your control when you do something based on an incorrect belief in that moment you don't know that it's incorrect because it looks it feels it seems correct the key insight here is you don't feel wrong you don't have the emotion connected to being wrong now interestingly in retrospect sometimes we do attach those emotions we do recognize the kind of embarrassing feeling of being wrong when we do find our faults but this retrospect is a very different experience and interestingly we also tend to cover up our own past experiences so that we forget that we were wrong in the first place once again if you're like most people you probably have a hard time recalling your recent mistakes this is a feature of our brains even though it may feel like a bug so what does it feel like to be wrong well it probably feels like being right this means that we are wrong when we are bringing things together and bringing things together may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may may We are steering off the path. We need other things, other people, other systems to check us. This may come in very obvious forms like tests, automated tests for your code. Or it may come in very non-obvious forms like listening to the opinion of a small child over your own. The prevailing lesson, the takeaway here is that we could all benefit from cultivating a bit more curiosity, a bit more skepticism of our own sense of confidence. And perhaps even a bit more empathy and quickness to forgive when we see others being wrong. Thanks so much for listening to today's episode. This eight-year anniversary episode. I can't believe that we're just two years shy of a decade of doing a podcast. That's mind-boggling. And I have you to thank for that. So thank you so much for listening. Once again, if you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe on whatever podcasting app you're currently using. 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